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September 15, 1971

Do you have something to say? You don’t have anything?

No, Mother, nothing encouraging.

(Mother goes within for a half hour)

Strange, there’s a child beside you. A child who must be between one and two years old — blond. And he is looking, he is putting his hand on your shoulder…. He’s…. He seems very, very intelligent.

(Mother goes back within)

No questions?

Who is that child?

I don’t know. I looked at him, he grew till he was about 10 years of age. And he stayed there. I saw him very young, two years old, then he grew, grew to about 10 years of age. He had his hand on your shoulder and was always looking at you like this (eyes wide open with a sort of devotion or adoration).

I don’t know.

He was European — not Indian.

It’s not my brother … who has left his body?

Ah, could be!

But is your brother blond?

Yes, when he was little, he was blond.

Oh, then it must be him.

But does that mean he has quit his body?

No.

Because he has taken a wrong course, you know — outwardly at

 least.

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(after a silence)

He was conscious. The child was conscious…. Perhaps it was his psychic being which has left?…[[Satprem's brother will commit suicide two years later, shortly after Mother's passing. ]] A total trust, you know (same wide-eyed gesture), like that.

Oh, but it’s peculiar, because he was blond when he was small [in Mother's vision], and when he got big, his hair turned darker — I noticed that. He was about … about ten, maybe.

You see, it was total trust. He was very quiet, looking at you and looking at you … with total trust.

But it wasn’t the physical being.

Yes, I understand.

(silence)

It’s night in France at this time?

Now it must be…. It’s the early hours of the morning, it must

 be five or six o’clock in the morning.

Do you think he is sleeping at that hour?

Yes, certainly.

It means he would have a two-year old psychic being (you see, they don’t have age per se, only in terms of development). And he grew up at your contact.[[Once, several years ago, Mother had received both Satprem and his brother together, and they had sat at her feet, side by side. Then, after the interview, Mother told Satprem: "It's strange, he seems to be like an emanation of you." ]] It’s interesting.

(long silence)

Is he younger than you?

Yes, physically I think he’s five or six years younger than I….

 But he has completely taken a wrong course.

Yes. Did his psychic being leave him?… Maybe.

It’s quite possible…. I once saw him cut in half.

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Oh!

Only the lower part remained.

Then that must be it.

And the last time I saw him, he was upside down, his head

 down and his feet in the air.

Ohh!…

He [the psychic being] seemed to be completely independent. And when he came — I saw him come — he was there beside you, he put his hand — his little hand — on your shoulder, and he looked at you like this (same wide-eyed gesture), and then slowly he grew and grew to about eight or ten years of age and then stopped. It is not a fully formed psychic being…. Perhaps it has left him. Perhaps he left it.

(silence)

Do you mean he has to go through another life to find his

 psychic being again?

Oh, certainly.

But once the psychic being has left someone, it doesn’t come

 back anymore?

Oh, yes, it can come back, but there must be a conversion.

There must be a conversion.

That the psychic came to you is a very good sign — it’s a very good sign, even for him. Because ordinarily, when the psychic being goes away like that, it goes back to the psychic world and rests until the next life. But he has remained conscious and came to you. That’s exceptional.

(silence)

We’ll see what happens…. Perhaps he’s sick? I don’t know.

Or else it left because the vital being (vital and physical) violently pushed it away.

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Yes, it’s more likely…. He’s thrown himself into rather terrible

 things.

(after a silence)

I don’t see him anymore, but I have the feeling he is there, he’s not leaving you.

But you can’t say it’s your “brother,” because the psychic being has been formed in other lives — it had ENTERED your brother.

Yes, of course.

(Mother goes within)

We’ll see.

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